why does everyone want such specific cars?
it was brought up a while back- special classes of cars over a specific would be best to get the drive and physics experience down best...then maybe specific
S15's RX-7's Civic...the rotary not withstanding all these cars are in the game of sorts...
think broader...kart, truck, pickup truck, silhoutte saloon/tin top/ real touring car spec (S2000)- classic GT, Pony car/Stock car, Roadsters/ Prewar cars (bugatti 35C/Millers/offenhausers) Race Trucks/ Tuk Tuk, whatever
but specifically a "Japan-go X-75 twin turbo 4 wheel drive from butthead movie sliders" come on- I think you might be missing the point of the current or evolving LFS sim....come S3 maybe but by then you might understand- and I might be gray too

fancy that?! a little oval, would even work well for big GT's but i imagine the FPS would drive many people insane...
just like MArtinsville in nascar

"fix these problems"...nah Improve what is already very very good.

funny LFS is light years better than almost any sim it is ridiculous.
When comparing my own car (US spec s14 Nissan)
the XRG drive a lot like it, when i set up the suspension the same...the lack of G force in SIM is where the big difference is.
I feel the Nissan's tyres claw and grip and then start to go..
where the XRG just starts to slide (thanks for the audible warnings and FFB) I can drive it liek this.
There is a slight disconnect in loading the tires, but it is better than any other sim for sure, and it is so simliar to my Nissan it is ridiculous. I set up a copy of the auto cross i did locally, and when we did it again, i shave 4 tenths off my time! Huge!
is it track familiarity or car predicatability or a good sim givining me all the clues for my real car?

The RAC gets little love- it is a nice car in the end actually
I feel the windscreen bar is alittle in the way of vision though

I totally agree with the above, but i would also say, it is fragile.
The bF1 is not necessarily always on the edge, yet it react to inputs and tyre collisions as if it is. the FOX can bang into another fox, and not really get set to the Formula Car Hospital, where the BF1 and not so much the F08 do appear more fragile. This makes for real if difficult racing, and it is not as easy to race period. not the drive, but the other cars, where a tin top can rub and bump and generally not have ill effects, this thing can't at all.
the racing is not as good
this of course may be down to sheer practice as it is blazing fast but the F08 races are very good on average, the jump to the BF1 does not yet create such good interactions online.
The FOX is superb, racing and driving, a little faster F06 maybe to go before the F08 and maybe a heavier grippier car between the F08 and Bf1 would allow for a gradual formual ladder.
ofcourse we all want and want, but the BF1 needs more practce servers and more practice period...although I have had cracker races at BW1 with it and FB1 even AS Nat... of course the server had a lot to do with it
CORE, MCPOLICE (where are you) are simply some of the best, DSR can be a good server too, a few goofs but good. and ofcourse the STCC servers
how far is you license?

thanks
i tried turning it down, and not a big difference, i mean the stuttering is like 29 FPS... not really bad, in fact it has always done that, i thought a new graphcis card and all the ram my MoBO can use (4gig) I thought this would be cured..gues it is my processor

I have a new flat screen , native res 1680X1050
i run a radeon 1650 AGP, 512
LFS run really well, ofcourse, but i do get som estutters at 30 FPS in turn 1 of KY Nat, well any full 20 + car race- normal? (P4 3.4 4 gig ram) after that and the field spreads I am at 100 FPS...
IN other games like day of defeat/ counter strike um why won't my FPS go over 45? is it because the refresh rate at the native resolution of the monitor is 60hz? or is it the drivers? (NGO optimized ati drivers)

good work-
I am a volvo racer IRL, and in LFS
all my cars now are volvo- nothing better than A Turbobrick or a Rorty Amazon!

and what a finish!
Harvick will be a force this year.

all good points
when i race and regularly find myself2-3 seconds off pace- i know 1 secon or 1.5 seconds is me not knowing the track.
couple that with a bad set...
when some one (lap time leader) lends me his set, with my line I come to 1 second of time...
so what does that say, my sets a crap
and my driving is not too off- just the 1second is the hardest to make up, in real life as well...i get it at times but in a few races forget it
and why do people try to pass IN the chicane at BL or FB?
use your head jerksillepall

i am also curious of fast guys and My best time are still3-4 seconds off the WR types...like when I race the CORE guys...ugh
sometimes i can stay clean and cathc up and pass when they wreck... but3-4 seconds is HUGE
i have spectated them live and there is a lot of scrubbing and squeling going on, when i get those noises, it is drastic over steer and speed losss, or understeer and speed loss-missed apex.
I try to keep the chirps up but not the skids...so how is it they drive like this and seemingly never lose the speed I do?
or when I do follow the line and keep up they seem to accelerate away like 10% better- why is that (could it be my MOMO racing?) i have it calibrated and all too?
or do I just suck?

so many choices...why not a watson type roadster, like Indy in the late 50's and 60's

great that worked well, i also found a disabling feature for the old modem which i don't use as i have digital line for internet, this was in windows itself...
thanks for the help.
and who knew a sound card can be soo good?

oh great- i have no idea how to change that! thanks though i will look inot it.
i installed the XF audigy or whatever it was...it rules! the sound turbowhine gear changes, in LFS, N2k3, GTl, WTCC, MBTR is alll tooo good, and like it said my frame rate did indeed improve in the other games.
nice buy i think.

but my problem now is the "hardware wizard" not so wizardly is telling me to install drivers and hardware everytime i start the computer-duh i did. and it works
o how do i do that? or is it asking me about onboard sound?

I have an onboard sound thing in my Abit IS-7 Mobo
so if i buy the new Sound card I want waht happens to the old onboard set up?
does it get removed, and does it matter what card i get?illepall

i also get smal ccrackilng- and i have new drivers...

the sounds are well done.. nice gear banging and whine- i would hae left a good deal in,
the BF1 the sound is wierd. U34- it was really good in patch U- it sound like it is bubbling water, but the other are pretty good.

thanks Scawen-er Scavier all you-
nice interface with the tracks too

wonderful sport, Foil? Epee? or Sabre?
I thing sabre or epee is more like the swashbuckler type and can be more fun.

I have practised kendo for a few years, but Fencing is a little fancier with less yelling

this game is good- fun to race real race cars, and nice to look- big FPS hit in some corners, (3.4P4)
maybe i dshould get more ram than 1.5g
anyway
it is fun adn the sound is good, no LFS for physics but the Ai is good.
It is a sinch to beat in semi pro...
anyway nice title from simbin a little improvement over GTL in terms of saving an oversteer anyway
good work SimBin Sverige
Reminds me of Mercedes Benz Race trucks in terms of racing and Ai-

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to the king of Code and Leige of LFS
Cheers Mate

i had a similar problem with a server
i re did my filters, and it still doesn't show up- after i lost connection a few nights ago
mainly it doesn' t show up on master listillepall

nice lap- i am hovering around 1:41 sill inthe BMW
the Seat is so much fun to drive.
any way-
nice demo- if the release is much much better this will be crazy good.
i turned down graphocs options to medium and it run s better (3.2 P4, 9800 256k Radeon Ati 1 gig ram)
not perfect though- i hop e this is improved on release.
funny the cars seem uch more skittish than anything in LFS, the sounds are better

the worst is derek daly in the US
his off tone voice, and horrible useless comments, are such a bore,:weeping::weeping::thumbsdow he can rarely ever bring emotions across and he always sounds lik he has to poop.:irked:

he ruins champcar ace broadcasts as well...

the best i have seen might be the SpeedTV crew of Varsha, Hobbes, Matchett, and Windsor...

i like that -as it has a real visual impact- the car's lines are not complimented much- but is sure does have a style and a wow in a group i bet- nice out f the box thinking

alot of the trouble- besides breaking points- lots of time to be found there and applying to threashold- before lockup, is turn in.
placing the car at apex does not mean you arrived there the same way.
turn in point (as you stated cyba sheep) is when you start going towards the apex.
as the driver you watched salmmed on the brakess and started turning slightly that's part of it. when he started the turn to aim the car just right.
now set ups do have alot to do with driving style, but in a world like LFS where everything would be the exact same, the driving style should be pretty near the same to go as fast in the same place. this is not to say there is more than one way to skin a cat.
I had a race at westhill, in the FO8 and we all race 1:26.xx with my speed being just the average and cathcing up in places other would slow down too much, and some place i would be left in the dust only to catch up later. We all were within .5 secs of each other till the end. 4 cars and very dicey- quite scary doing it.
different set ups different styles same times-
so copying some one when you are not that type of driver might not work for you. after years of driving (since s1) i am still no WR setter, but i never come in last anymore (i don't drive every night either- N2K3 needs love, and F1C and GTL, and CounterStrike and Day of Defeat, and Spirit of heat..)